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Turning operations
What turning is and how DIN 8589-1 groups it; the operations a lathe performs, each with its feed direction, tool and typical problem; the entering angle and the chip it cuts; constant cutting speed with a speed limit; boring-bar overhang; and starting feeds from two tool makers.
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Turning: the work turns, the tool feeds
- Feed for finishing (Sandvik Coromant)
- 0.1–0.3mm/rev
- Chip thickness at κr = 45°, from hex = fn · sin κr
- 0.71 × fn
- Longest overhang for a steel boring bar (Sandvik Coromant)
- 4 × D
- Feed cut near the centre when parting off (Sandvik Coromant)
- up to 75 %
Turning makes round parts. The workpiece turns, and that rotation is the cutting motion; a tool with a single cutting point is fed along the work or across it. Sandvik Coromant puts it as the combination of two movements, the rotation of the workpiece and the feed of the tool. DIN 8589 defines turning as cutting with a closed, mostly circular cutting motion and a feed in any direction across the cutting direction.
Everything that follows comes from these two motions: which way the tool is fed, which part of the edge does the cutting, and what happens to the cutting speed as the tool moves towards the axis.
How DIN 8589-1 groups turning
DIN 8589-1 sorts the turning processes by the kind of surface they make, by the motion of the cut and by the shape of the tool. That gives six groups: four named after the surface they produce, and two, profile and form turning, after how the shape is made:
Plandrehen
Facing
Plane surfaces, such as the end faces of a part.
Runddrehen
Cylindrical (straight) turning
Round surfaces on the lateral face of a cylinder.
Schraubdrehen
Screw turning
Threads: the feed per revolution equals the lead (the pitch, on a single-start thread).
Wälzdrehen
Roll turning
Rolling surfaces such as gear teeth; a generating motion rides on the feed.
Profildrehen
Profile turning
The shape is in the tool, as its negative.
Formdrehen
Form (contour) turning
Any shape from a controlled tool path; on a CNC lathe both axes are driven.
In the plane, round and profile groups the prefix gives the feed direction: Quer- across the axis, Längs- along it. Abstech- and Einstech- mark parting and grooving. So facing an end face is Quer-Plandrehen, ordinary turning along a shaft is Längs-Runddrehen and parting off is Quer-Abstechdrehen.
Two words cross the language boundary badly. What tool makers call profiling, a contour cut with the tool moving along and across the axis at once, is DIN Formdrehen, not Profildrehen; in DIN, profile turning means a form tool that carries the shape. And DIN names Plandrehen after the plane surface, whatever the feed direction, while workshop German often uses Plandrehen simply for a cross feed.
The operations, one by one
Tool makers group the same work by what the operator does. Sandvik Coromant’s general-turning catalogue starts with longitudinal turning, profiling, facing and plunging; parting and grooving and threading have chapters of their own, and internal turning has its own section within general turning. The table covers the operations of the first figure, plus plunging and taper turning.
| Operation | Feed | Tool | What to watch |
|---|---|---|---|
| Longitudinal turning (Längs-Runddrehen) | Along the axis | General turning insert in a holder; Sandvik names the 80° C insert with entering angles of 95° or 93° as the usual choice | A shoulder needs an entering angle κr of at least 90°. On slender work keep κr near 90°, where the passive force is smallest |
| Facing (Quer-Plandrehen) | Across the axis, usually towards the centre | General turning insert; Sandvik lists κr 75° and 95°/91° with C, S and T inserts | The cutting speed falls towards the centre unless the control raises the spindle speed (see below) |
| Profiling (DIN Formdrehen) | Along and across at once | D (55°), V (35°) and T (60°) inserts are the most used (Sandvik) | How steep a contour the tool can follow: Sandvik gives each holder a largest in-copying angle; κr 93° allows 22–27° |
| Plunging and grooving | Across the axis; face grooving along it | Grooving insert in a blade or holder | Chip evacuation; Siemens adds that chips can jam and high forces bend long, thin parts |
| Parting off (Quer-Abstechdrehen) | Across the axis, to the centre | Narrow parting blade | Speed falls to zero at the centre; a pip is left; chips must get out |
| Thread turning (Gewindedrehen) | Along the axis; feed per revolution = lead (= pitch on a single-start thread) | Single-profile threading insert | Speed and feed must hold the pitch exactly; usually run at constant spindle speed (G97) |
| Internal turning (boring) | Along the axis inside a hole, plus internal facing | Boring bar | Overhang and vibration; chip evacuation; κr close to 90°, never below 75° (Sandvik) |
| Drilling on a lathe | Along the centre line | Stationary drill | Constant spindle speed, not constant cutting speed |
| Chamfers and tapers | Along and across at once | General turning insert | Mitsubishi’s cutting-length calculator treats taper turning and chamfering as cases of their own, next to external and face turning |
In the DIN scheme drilling is a process of its own, next to turning; it is in the table because lathes do so much of it. The drilling page covers the drill.
The parameters every operation shares
Five quantities describe any turning cut. The depth of cut ap is half the difference between the uncut and the cut diameter, the distance from the work surface to the machined surface. The feed fn is how far the tool moves per revolution of the work, in mm/rev. The cutting speed vc is the surface speed, in m/min, and the spindle speed n follows from it and the diameter. The entering angle κr is the angle between the main cutting edge and the feed direction, and the nose radius rε rounds the corner where the main and the minor edge meet. The formulas that link them are on the turning formulas page.
One warning about angles: Sandvik and ISO give the entering angle κr, where 90° means an edge square to the feed. Sandvik also uses the lead angle, 90° − κr, and Japanese makers (Mitsubishi, Sumitomo, Tungaloy) print the side cutting edge angle in the same lead-angle sense, so a larger angle in their catalogues means a smaller κr. Always check which one a table gives.
- Chip thickness h = fn · sin κr
- 0.300 mm
- Chip width b = ap / sin κr
- 2.00 mm
- Section A = ap · fn
- 0.60 mm²
- h / fn
- 1.00
The chip a turning edge cuts is a thin parallelogram. Its thickness, measured square to the edge, is the maximum chip thickness
and its width along the edge is ap / sin κr, so the section ap · fn stays the same whatever the angle. At κr 90° the chip is as thick as the feed; at 45° it is 0.71 times the feed, which is the factor Sandvik prints. Sandvik’s patent on turning states the definition in words: chip thickness is the feed multiplied by the sine of the entering angle. Mitsubishi, Sumitomo and Tungaloy describe the same trend from the other side: at the same feed, a larger lead angle gives a thinner chip, and Mitsubishi adds a wider one.
Choosing κr is a trade:
- Turning against a shoulder: κr must be at least 90° (Europa-Lehrmittel); Sandvik’s usual holders for longitudinal turning are 95° and 93°.
- Slender work, light finishing cuts, a weak machine: keep κr near 90° (Mitsubishi). The passive force is smallest at 90° and grows as κr falls (Handwerk und Technik), and a long, thin part bends under it.
- A smaller κr spreads the load over a longer edge, which Mitsubishi credits with longer tool life, and Sandvik advises an entering angle below 90° where possible to soften the impact. The cost: the chip is harder to break (Mitsubishi), the radial force is higher, and the tool cannot reach a square shoulder.
Facing and parting: the speed runs out at the centre
At a fixed spindle speed the cutting speed falls with the diameter and is zero at the centre; Hoffmann’s advice for machines without constant cutting speed is to calculate with the average diameter. A CNC lathe can hold the cutting speed instead. On a Siemens SINUMERIK control G96 keeps vc constant, and because the spindle speed would in theory climb without end as the diameter shrinks, a speed limit has to be programmed, for example G96 S180 LIMS=3000. From the diameter where the limit is reached, the spindle stays at the limit and the cutting speed falls to zero at the centre, as Sandvik describes for parting off.
- Diameter D
- 9.5 mm
- Spindle speed n
- 3000 rpm
- Cutting speed vc
- 90 m/min
- Limit reached at
- D 19.1 mm
Siemens programs drilling and, usually, thread turning with G97, constant spindle speed; for these the speed must not change with the diameter. For parting off, Sandvik reduces the feed by up to 75 % about 2 mm before the part comes off, to keep the pip small, and calls chip evacuation a critical factor.
Boring: the overhang decides
A boring bar is a cantilever inside the part, and its length against its diameter decides whether the cut is quiet. Sandvik’s rule is the largest bar diameter and the shortest overhang the job allows, with these limits by bar type:
Sandvik also keeps the entering angle close to 90° in boring and never below 75°, because a smaller angle raises the radial force that pushes the bar away from the wall. Tungaloy’s troubleshooting table gives the same remedy for chatter: shorten the overhang of the toolholder.
Starting feeds from two makers
Both makers sort turning into finishing, medium and roughing and give a feed range for each. Sandvik’s ranges come from its insert-size chart and Sumitomo’s are its first-choice conditions; both are for their own inserts, not limits; Sumitomo’s table goes with particular grades and chipbreakers and is printed in inches, converted here.
| Category | Sandvik Coromant, fn (mm/rev) | Sumitomo, fn (≈ mm/rev) | Sumitomo, ap (≈ mm) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Finishing | 0.1–0.3 | 0.05–0.20 | 0.13–1.5 |
| Medium / general purpose | 0.2–0.5 | 0.20–0.51 | 1.0–5.1 |
| Roughing | 0.5–1.5 | 0.38–0.66 | 5.1 |
The two agree on the order and roughly on the middle range; for roughing, Sandvik’s chart reaches much higher feeds than Sumitomo’s table.
Common mistakes
- Constant cutting speed without a limit. As the tool nears the axis the control would raise the spindle speed without end; Siemens asks for a programmed limit because of the centrifugal forces.
- G96 for drilling or threading. Drilling needs a constant spindle speed, and thread turning usually runs at one too (G97 on SINUMERIK).
- A κr below 90° against a shoulder. The edge cannot reach the corner; use a 93° or 95° holder.
- A long boring bar. Take the largest bar that fits and the shortest overhang; past the limits above, use a dampened or carbide bar.
- Full feed to the end of a parting cut. Reduce it about 2 mm before the part comes off, or the pip grows.
- Mixing angle conventions. κr 75° and a 15° lead angle are the same holder; a Japanese catalogue’s “side cutting edge angle 15°” is that holder too.
Sources (22)
Every value and quotation on this page comes from the documents below.
- DIN 8589-1:2003-09, Fertigungsverfahren Spanen – Teil 1: Drehen; Einordnung, Unterteilung, Begriffe (DIN Media product page)
- H. Möllers, Maschinelle Werkstoffbearbeitung, Teil: Drehen, Christiani, 3rd ed. 2013 (publisher sample, pp. 4–5)
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